Almost 300 people were killed when the Malaysian Airlines flight was shot down over Ukraine in 2014. The UN aviation council has ruled that Russian-backed separatists were to blame.

The United Nations’ aviation council on Monday, ruled that Russia was responsible for downing of the Malaysian Airlines flight over Ukraine, which killed all of the nearly 300 people on board in 2014.

This number included 196 Dutch citizens and 28 Australian citizens, their governments said in separate statements.

The case was launched in 2022 by Australia and the Netherlands.

    • D_C@lemm.ee
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      2 hours ago

      Yep. The good news is it’ll only take them 50 years to punish Putin for it.
      I bet he’s shitting his pants harder than an american ‘president’ about the future punishment as well!!

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    Yeah, no shit.

    That we didn’t sanction Russia on the spot is mind-boggling.

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    “This decision also sends a clear message to the international community: states cannot violate international law with impunity.”

    And how have they been punished, exactly?

    “We call upon Russia to finally face up to its responsibility for this horrific act of violence and make reparations for its egregious conduct, as required under international law,”

    You call upon them? So they haven’t been punished and won’t be, got it.

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        They get to send strongly worded letters to formally request that other nations possibly consider the contents of.

        Or possibly maybe at some point in the future face slight financial consequences.

        They’re protesters with guns that refuse to use the guns to actually help people unless it’s inside the extremely narrow scope of their rules.

        When you’re dealing with a person that refuses to listen to anyone around them, holding an intervention is useless. Discussing the problems don’t help unless the person doing something wrong is willing to listen to the people they hate.

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          The UN only has power insofar as other countries agree that it does. If they start taking harsher stances, countries will start pulling out of the UN which defeats its whole purpose.

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            Nobody will want to join the UN when they see how little is done for member states. Their inaction will be their end, just like the League of Nations before them.

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          The UN is specifically not a protester with a gun.

          The moment the UN uses proactive force, it just becomes NATO.

          Yes this is just a strongly worded letter. You might think that’s useless. Not sure what you expect them to do differently though?

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    The Netherlands and Australia want the ICAO Council to order Russia to enter into talks on possible reparations

    “enter into talks on possible reparations”. Absolutely brutal, I wouldn’t want to be Russia right now…

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      The Netherlands also shipped a large amount of anti-tank, air defence missiles as well as a hundred sniper rifles and 30.000 rounds of ammo to Ukraine. And that was just the start.

      You need to walk a fine line in international politics as a country.

      But here, just you and me talking: as a Dutchman I remember those victims. And I hope every single one of those 30.000 rounds finds a loving home in the brain of a Russian. Fuck the lot of ‘em. You invade a country, you deserve to get a Dutch-sponsored surprise lead injection.

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      How can you order them to enter talks? They can just say no, what are you going to do, arrest the country? Why aren’t they already sanctioned to hell and back? Russia understands no one can make them do anything and they’re right. If there’s no forceful enforcement of rules those rules don’t matter

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      The Entmoot has decided to discuss opening talks to determine if discussions are necessary before taking action to begin negotiations.

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    And as a consequence of these findings, Russia has learned their lesson, we assume. Case closed, good job to us.

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      lol how does it even do that? Someone will write you a mean letter you can just throw in the trash… if anything stuff like this proves the literal opposite. Do whatever you want, you’ll never face any consequences beyond a mean letter you throw in the trash

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    It took them over a decade to realize this?

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      Can you imagine it! It was the Russian government all along! Who could have known? A strongly worded letter is warranted! And maybe even a relocation of the 2028 regional meeting in st petersburg… WHAT now! Russia is under sanctions? Why? By whom?

      The UN: at the forefront of diplomacy.

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    I still do not understand the prime motive for this to happen the flight posed zero threat to Russia.

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      What happens when you give advanced weapons to people with no qualifications and tell them to shoot when they see a blip on the screen?

      The lesson is to be more responsible with dangerous equipment. Russians don’t care. Can always just blame someone else when things go wrong.

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      It was only just a month into the first post-Euromaidan elected government of Ukraine and Russian media tried to pin the shootdown on Ukraine. Petro Poroshenko, the then-new president, was also talking a lot about forcefully ending the conflict in Donbas and Luhansk. To be clear this is 100% me guessing at things, but I could imagine it being an attempt to discredit Poroshenko’s government

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        Also to send the message they can do whatever they want to you including kill your civilians and they will never face repercussions for it. If the only “punishment” is a mean letter ten years after the fact what’s actually stopping them from doing it again, when ever they want, wherever they want? Literally nothing. It’s a threat

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